[?]: simotion d435 problem

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eheshame
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[?]: simotion d435 problem

Post by eheshame » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:38 am

i use now a system contains of simotion d435,

i have a problem now : without any reason the machine stops, dont work, the motors that work by the drives in the d435 system not work, then i do reset many times , witout any change, when i change the mode of controller d435 from stop(0) to run(2) the machine work normaly,

this problem happen every time,


i want to know what is the couse of this problem,

thanks for you

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D435 problem

Post by asm_Coder » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:47 pm

is D435 going stop? is your program has fault tasks for cpu faults? if not then make a few dammy task and include it to TimeFaultTask, TimeFaultBackGroundTask, TechnologicalFaultTask, PeripheralFaultTask, ExecutionFaultTask in Execution System. When system get any fault then CPU wont stop.

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Post by eheshame » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:49 pm

these tasks allredy done, also the problem still happen

thsnks for your replay

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Post by jimax » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:31 pm

Try to check diagnostic buffer and alarm history in Sinamics Integrated from Simotion Scout.

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Post by eheshame » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:03 am

i triad it before, some time i find alarm with overcurrent, but the system was still stop without work, other times i not find any thing

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Post by jimax » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:11 am

I had once the problem with undervoltage with D425. I had 10 axis machine and some axis stop works with undervoltage error (the axis was faulted without feedback this information to D425). There was also one solution to force it works-power off an power on supply. It was a firmware bug. What`s your firmware rev.? Upgrade to latest one. Try to contact siemens support in Germany if problems still existing.

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Post by eheshame » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:18 am

thanks for your replay,

the ver. sinamics s120 v2.4 d435 v4.0.0.5 scout v4.0

and how can i upgrade the firmware, is it easy to do? or need support from siemens, i sent allready to siemens but not replay me.

thanks for your help

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Post by jimax » Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:59 am

There is the procedure how to upgrade the firmware including latest firmware download.
http://support.automation.siemens.com/W ... n/31045047
don`t fotget backup licences and retain data before firmware changes.

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Post by jimax » Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:16 am

I forget to inform you for change from your version to latest one will need upgrade device in HW config, update technology packages and sinamics in scout (see siemens manuals or FAQ on Scout installation discs). I don`t remember the firmware revision with my problems with siemens bug, but it was 4.0.x. I recommend you to upgrade the latest firmware asap.

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Post by eheshame » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:56 am

thanks for you,
i want to know how can i read the memory card of the simotion?
is it read from the scout? how? or another program?

thanks again

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Post by Electroluck » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:27 pm

Hi,
You need a CF card reader to read the CF. You must get one (maybe in a computer's store).
Then, you'll be able to back up the folders with the Keys and Data Retain from the Windows' Explorer (or another OS you have), delete the other folders and archives, and copy the new firmware d435.bin to the CF.
If you are using Scout 4.0, you must get Scout 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 to install the lastest firmware upgrade.
http://www.plcforum.uz.ua/viewtopic.php ... ight=scout
You'll have to upgrade the sinamics too.
Good Luck!

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Post by eheshame » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:03 am

thank you very much , i will try to do this,

but i want to know, how can i read the program from the flash, by reader i can copy the flash files, but the program on the flash how can i read it? is it by scout? or another program? and if it by scout, how? i tried many times, but, no way,

plz help me

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Post by Electroluck » Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:08 pm

Unfortunately, you can't back up the Scout program from the flash card. It's the same as Siemens HMI Panels or PCS7 programs in S7400... You can't recovery the source code. You only have the compiled program in the CF to make a copy. So, without the source code, you won't be able to modify or debug the program :?
However, some programmers saves a .zip copy of the Scout program in the CF... Maybe, if you are so lucky, you'll find this archived file in CF... but it's an improbable thing.

Regards

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