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FRD66
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Siemens PG710 Plus

Post by FRD66 » Thu May 19, 2016 6:57 am

Hi everybody, this is my first post in the forum.

A friend of mine has given me a PG710 Plus which had a hard drive crash and it was not booting at all and also floppy disks are lost, I have found a hard disk and installed dos 6.22 and STEP5 7.23 on the new hard disk, unfortunately when I run STEP5.exe in S5_SYS folder because of low RAM it can not run, gives No HIMEM.SYS or not enough XMS memory error, I tested on a virtual machine and you can run STEP5 7.23 with 8 MB of RAM, as you know PG has 2 30pin SIMM and because these are really old RAM modules I can not find RAM for it, wanted to know whether anybody can help me so that I got it up and running.

My current PG has 640kB system memory and 1024kB extnded memory, want to know what was the original DOS and STEP5 version available on PG710 Plus?

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[Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by spacedev » Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:26 am

Hi all!
i need old version of step7 (for S7-300 programming), which I can run in Windows 3.11. it is older version than v3.1
if any have,please upload
thanks

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by saksit » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:57 am

STEP 7 V3.1 for Windows 95
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/qA3JuMSnuSSXNA/Step7/Step7_v3
https://mega.nz/file/CCAiXKYT#9uVBEErnu ... _HhwnTeVws

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https://mega.nz/file/CCAiXKYT#9uVBEErnu4RaxgsrWLlcNZAulD9G4fvk8_HhwnTeVws
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STEP 7 V3.1 is a 32-bit application which requires Microsoft Windows 95 as its operating system.
It cannot run under Microsoft Windows 3.1 or Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11.
We recommend that you also install the Microsoft Service Pack 1 (Win 95 version 4.00.950a).

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by spacedev » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:15 am

thank you

but I need older version.

Could someone upload ?

thx.

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by Dfcz » Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:23 am

I'm not sure there is such a version. I was working with a very old programmer with DOS and Windows 95 operating systems installed. But it was Windows 3.11 that did not exist.
And, as far as I still remember, Windows 3.11 was a "DOS system with a graphical shell", that is, programs written for DOS were run under Windows 3.11.

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by dekelec » Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:05 am

The version of STEP 7 that spacedev is reffering to, must be v1.0.
STEP 7 1.0 : release date: 1995, discontinuation: 1. Februar 1997. Version history of STEP 7 started with version 1.0 in 1995. It was supplied on eight installation diskettes and one authorization diskette. The first version was executable under Windows 3.11.
(https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEP_7)

I personally never used it, so I don't have this version to share.
I started with STEP 5 v7.11 and 7.2 in MS-DOS (CPU: 100U, 115U) and then switched directly to STEP7 v5.2 and newer.

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by Dfcz » Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:32 am

There is an article on Wikipedia, and anyone can read it. But show me the link where step 7 version 1 is mentioned?

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by dekelec » Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:40 am

In the previous post I've added the link and the description translated into English, since it's originally written in German.
Look for the table under "Versionsgeschichte"

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by CoMod » Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:33 am

(sfaq) 08/27/1996
STEP 7 V2.1 is a 32-bit application for Windows '95
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs ... 0&lc=en-US

no info about STEP 7 V1.0 (h)
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs ... c&lc=en-US

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by dekelec » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:46 am

@spacedev
From CoMod's post, I'm deducing it's going to be a difficult task finding a Step 7 version, Siemens would rather forget.
Let's hope someone else reading this, happens to have it.

For what kind of computer do you need it? Since there are only newer versions available,is there any chance to install Windows 95 on that comp?

Regards,

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by spacedev » Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:14 pm

I would like install in PG710-386 plus
6EA1710-2DA11-0AA1
F-NR.DD-0378

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by Dfcz » Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:56 pm

dekelec wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:40 am
In the previous post I've added the link and the description translated into English, since it's originally written in German.
Look for the table under "Versionsgeschichte"
That's what I wrote about: you inserted a link to Wikipedia, but you didn't bother to go through the links on this page. I looked at all the links on this page and wrote to you that there is no information about version 1. And you write to me so that I look. Take the trouble to look for yourself.

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by dekelec » Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:09 pm

spacedev wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:14 pm
I would like install in PG710-386 plus
6EA1710-2DA11-0AA1
F-NR.DD-0378
I 'm aquainted with this old Field PG (programming device). I had STEP 5 installed on it, didn't have a chance to come across with one using STEP7.

6EA1 710-2DA11-0AA1 PG 710 Plus / STEP 5/ST (5 languages)

https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs ... 0&lc=en-US
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs ... 0&lc=en-US
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs ... 0&lc=en-US
https://support.industry.siemens.com/fo ... ageSize=10

https://cache.industry.siemens.com/dl/f ... v702_e.pdf
"To use STEP 5/ST V 7.0, you require at least the MS-DOS 5.0 operating
system. You can also use the following:
Higher MS-DOS versions,
Windows 3.x and
Windows95
Windows NT is not supported."

As I mentioned before, it's going to be difficult to find the (misterious) STEP 7 version for Windows 3.11.
As I remember Windows 95 also worked on that device. You'll need Windows 95 drivers for PG specific devices. Also check if the disk is supported in Win95.
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs ... 0&lc=en-AO
https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs ... 0&lc=en-AO
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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by spacedev » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:00 pm

Mayby you now order number of STEP 7 v1.0 ?

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by dekelec » Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:25 am

The oldest entry I could find (LINK)
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Entry type: Product note Entry ID: 4801875, Entry date: 08/27/1996

STEP 7 Micro/DOS, Version 1.1
Concerns products with the Catalog Nos.:

6ES7 810-2DA00-0YX0 STEP 7 Micro/DOS
6ES7 810-2DA00-0YX1 STEP 7 Micro/DOS, copy license

STEP 7 Micro/DOS is now available in version 1.1. The new version
supports 5 languages (English, German, French, Italian, Spanish)
and also includes a few minor function expansions and bug fixes.

_Compatibility:_

All programs generated in version 1.0 will function with version
1.1. OB 1 programs generated in Toolite 2 can be imported with
the ASCII import feature of Micro/DOS version 1.1.

The STEP 7 Micro/DOS product is designed to operate under MS-DOS,
version 5.0, or higher. Running the product as a DOS shell under
Windows or Windows '95 has not been specifically tested and may,
in some instances, result in a faulty response of your programming device/PC.

There will be no update or upgrade scheme.
------------------------------

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by CoMod » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:29 am

STEP 7 "Micro" is STEP 7 MicroWin for S7-200
The oldest entry I could find
before Windows 95 there was no Internet :(
Need search info in FIDO BBS (modem forums)
example of FIDO BBS
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To : All
Subj : SB 32 Family Cards
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Hello All !

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Retail Audio Cards
CT3930 - Sound Blaster 32 card
CT3600 - Sound Blaster 32 IDE Plug-and-Play card
CT3620 - Sound Blaster 32 IDE Plug-and-Play card

>OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) Audio Cards
>CT3604 - Sound Blaster 32 Plug-and-Play card.
>Installed by the PCmanufacturer (OEM). Does not include the CD-ROM
>interface.

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>CT3930

Sound Blaster 32 is a 16-bit audio board that provides you with CD
quality sound for your PC. This card uses a single chip solution. It
comes equiped with an IDE CD-ROM interface, and a SIMM RAM upgrade
module, allowing you to experience the world of multimedia.

GENERAL
System Requirements: +IBM PC 386SX and higher or 100% compatibles EGA or VGA
5MB of hard disk space for SB16 software
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Re: Siemens PG710 Plus

Post by spacedev » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:56 am

Who have working PG710 Plus? I have, but hard disk not work.

Could someone make image od hard drive ?

Thx

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by dekelec » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:39 am

spacedave, I suggest, that you post the same topic on other forums for PLC users. This way you'll reach more people to read it and maybe you'll get lucky.
Maybe contacting Siemens via their offical Forum, to find out what is still officialy available/possible to achieve.

Also check this forum entries:
https://sieportal.siemens.com/en-si/sea ... ankingDesc

https://support.industry.siemens.com/fo ... ageSize=10

Regards,
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Re: Siemens PG710 Plus

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by spacedev » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:20 pm

Someone know articel numer (MLFB) of Step 7 v1.0 ?

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Re: [Request]: Step7 for Windows 3.11 (very old)

Post by dekelec » Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:48 am

@ CoMod
My mistake. It was intended for spacedev :)

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Re: Siemens PG710 Plus

Post by collinsd70 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:17 am

The siemens forum is not helpful for legacy equipment, they want nothing to do with it.

I also have PG710 with hard disk failure and need recovery image, I may send hard drive for professional recovery...

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PG710 BIOS Update

Post by collinsd70 » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:03 pm

Does anyone have a copy of the PG710 BIOS?

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